external drives don t work vista

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

I had no problem connecting my external 250GB hard drive. I then used Vista's backup routine to do an image backup, which worked very quickly.
Dave
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote in message

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

If you mean install/run Vista from an external, only if the drive is either a SCSI or SATA. To Vista, a USB external drive defines itself as "Removable" which is not a supported installation setup.
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote in message

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

What kind of drive and is it connected to the mobo via a pass-through?
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote in message

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

I have the same problem with my HotWay NAS drive with a 300GB HDD installed. It CANNOT connect to it via ethernet.
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote:

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

I have the same problem with my HotWay NAS drive with a 300GB HDD installed. It CANNOT connect to it via ethernet.
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote:

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

"HoochieMamma" <hoochiemamma72@hotmail.com(don''''t spam me mo fo''''s)> wrote in message

I have the same problem with my HotWay NAS drive with a 300GB HDD installed. It CANNOT connect to it via ethernet.

NAS drives work fine... No problem with my LinkSys.

I had similar problem. I went into device manager. Scroll down to "Universal Serial Bus Controllers" and then to "USB Mass Storage Device(s)". Should see an icon "plug" with no "X" shown on icon(s). If an "X" appears right-click on appropriate icon - properties - drivers.
Driver required: "C:\windows\system32\drivers\USBSTOT.sys"
Hope this helps.
"Noozer" wrote:

"HoochieMamma" <hoochiemamma72@hotmail.com(don''''t spam me mo fo''''s) wrote in message I have the same problem with my HotWay NAS drive with a 300GB HDD installed. It CANNOT connect to it via ethernet.
NAS drives work fine... No problem with my LinkSys.

Correction:
Driver required: "C:\windows\system32\drivers\USBSTOR.sys" instead of:
Driver required: "C:\windows\system32\drivers\USBSTOT.sys"
Sorry

"Dick C." wrote:

I had similar problem. I went into device manager. Scroll down to "Universal Serial Bus Controllers" and then to "USB Mass Storage Device(s)". Should see an icon "plug" with no "X" shown on icon(s). If an "X" appears right-click on appropriate icon - properties - drivers.
Driver required: "C:\windows\system32\drivers\USBSTOT.sys"
Hope this helps.
"Noozer" wrote:
"HoochieMamma" <hoochiemamma72@hotmail.com(don''''t spam me mo fo''''s) wrote in message I have the same problem with my HotWay NAS drive with a 300GB HDD installed. It CANNOT connect to it via ethernet.
NAS drives work fine... No problem with my LinkSys.

abc, try digging through the registry to HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\SUB and look for entries under Vid_0000&Pid_0000 for identifier strings related to your hardware, its very possible that the system is recognizing the drives as "Unknown Devices" and pushing them here.
What you will attempt to do is delete all the entries under the Vid_0000&Pid_0000 key but MS (in its infinite wisdom) has decided to eliminate any user control over these keys.
I know this because every time Windows Defender runs against the USB key I have set up as my ReadyBoost drive it fails out, the hardware drops, Windows attemtps to recognize it again but Windows Defender is still trying to access it. The multiple access calls screw with the hardware identification and Vista ends up identifying the hardware as an "Unknown Device", if I have any other devices attached to the computer at the time that use USBSTOR.SYS they are also re-registered as "Unknown Devices".
I may sound bitter.
If I find an EASY way to change the rights on the ENUM keys I'll post it up, but as it is I think the only methodology of changing the rights on ENUM is by startup script and I'm frankly I need to calm down first.
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote:

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USB drive -- the drive itself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge and drive never needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as the drive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATA drive chassis. When I put a Seagate drive in it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination of drive and bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you think drive problems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote:

Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

I have a 3 year old Maxtor external usb drive, a 5 year old Nikon slide scanner connected via firewire and a Canon flatbed and all have been working perfectly with my upgrade to Vista from XP Home. Hell, I had more problems getting ITunes to work with Vista than anything else!
"Statue" wrote in message

Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USB drive -- the drive itself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge and drive never needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as the drive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATA drive chassis. When I put a Seagate drive in it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination of drive and bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you think drive problems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance
"abc@shaw.ca" wrote:
Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make an external drive work with windows vista
let me know please

On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue wrote:

Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive-- thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance

"a...@shaw.ca" wrote: Hey ,
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I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive either - Any solutions?

"Jackbliss" wrote in message

On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue wrote: Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive-- thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance

"a...@shaw.ca" wrote: Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with windows vista
let me know please- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive either - Any solutions?

Obtain one which does? But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to, and probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into their OSes.
Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
-- Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. ------------------------------------------------------

"Jackbliss" wrote in message

On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue wrote: Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive-- thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance

"a...@shaw.ca" wrote: Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with windows vista
let me know please- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive either - Any solutions?

Are you sure about usb keys? I installed my raid drivers via some el cheapo usb key, when I put vista on this machine. Worked like a charm.

I have an external USB drive and it works flawlessly. No issues at all. Just plug and play.
I just wonder if people are asking VISTA to do everything, including washing the dishes.
Dan

On Feb 20, 7:41 pm, "Donald McDaniel" wrote:

"Jackbliss" wrote in message



On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue wrote: Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive-- thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put aMaxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance
"a...@shaw.ca" wrote: Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with windows vista
let me know please- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I cannot use a 3 year oldMaxtorExternal Drive or Lexar Jump Drive either - Any solutions?
Obtain one which does? But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to, and probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into their OSes.
Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
-- Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. ------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive (firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.

"Jackbliss" wrote in message

On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue wrote: Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive-- thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put a Maxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance

"a...@shaw.ca" wrote: Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with windows vista
let me know please- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive either - Any solutions?

Two suggestions:
1, MS has released a number of patches for Vista, including at least one that has to do with USB support. If you haven't already, make sure Vista is up to date on Windows Update.
2, Since not everyone is having the problem, it could be a motherboard chipset driver problem. You might want to check with the manufacturer to see if they have updated chipset drivers for Vista.
Best Regards,
Dave

"Jackbliss" wrote in message

On Feb 20, 7:41 pm, "Donald McDaniel" <orthocr...@invalid.invalid wrote: "Jackbliss" wrote in message



On Feb 18, 4:56 pm, Statue wrote: Hello Ya'all:
Here's my two cents on this: There's two main components on a USBdrive-- thedriveitself, and the USB (or firewire) to PATA (or SATA) bridge. The problem, as far as I can tell, is previously, like in XP, the bridge anddrivenever needed a driver from the device manufacturer -- XP had a built-in driver for the bridge as well as thedrive. What now looks like is happening is they have a built-in driver for the bridge, but do not have drivers for the drives. I have a Nexstar USB to PATAdrivechassis. When I put a Seagatedrivein it, it works. When I put aMaxtor, it doesn't. My best guess is whoever was alpha testing this at Microsoft didn't have every combination ofdriveand bridge to test, so only what was on-hand was tested, and since that seemed to work, that's what was released.
On a similar subject is a huge oversight on the part of USB memory keys. Originally, we heard rumors of even more advanced support for memory keys -- according to Microsoft's WHQL list -- memory keys are NOT supported. In fact, I have a Lexar Jumpdrive -- the most common memory key ever made -- doesn't work and not supported.
When the driver installs the bridge driver, that goes oK, but when it gets to the "drive" portion of the driver, if you go to the driver details -- it says "Could not start driver -- invalid switch".
I sent in an e-mail to Microsoft's support (90-days by the way on Vista), and have had no response other than an automated acknowledgement that the message was received.
I also contacted Lexar on the USB memory key issue, and they were completely caught off guard.
If you thinkdriveproblems are a problem -- they are just the top of the iceburg. Try connecting to a Mac network, or printing over an ethernet print server -- on the Mac network, you end up logging into yourself, and most ethernet print servers don't work - in fact, funny as it seems, when Vista first went beta, the HP Laserjet 4si wasn't even in the device list as a local printer.
Lance
"a...@shaw.ca" wrote: Hey ,
Does anyone know if there is a soloution to make anexternaldrivework with windows vista
let me know please- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I cannot use a 3 year oldMaxtorExternal Drive or Lexar Jump Drive either - Any solutions?
Obtain one which does? But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to, and probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.
Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into their OSes.
Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.
-- Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. ------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive (firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.

1) Have you installed a Vista-compatible IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller driver for your Firewire controller? "no drivee, no workee" 2) Have you installed USB2.0? 3) Have you enabled USB 2.0 in your BIOS? 4) Have you installed latest BIOS updates for your machine? 5) Have you installed ALL latest Vista-compatible device drivers? 6) Have you checked to see if Firewire must be enabled in your BIOS? 7) Have you made sure that your Firewire drive is formatted either as FAT32, or as NTFS? Otherwise, Vista will not recognize it.
When you have done those 7 things, come back, and I will revisit your issue.
Also, please include a listing of your devices, motherboard, memory amount and type, and especially, your Maxtor Drive Firewire model, as well as your USB thumb-drive maker and model.
-- Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread. ------------------------------------------------------